From Broke To £120 Million | Matt Fiddes Reveals EVERYTHING

This week I sat down with Matt Fiddes, we talked about he turned 100£ to £120+ million, his experience being Michael Jackson's Bodyguard, high profile network and how can the average person start crafting their own path!
 
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you first started with just £100 in your savings and you started building your first martial arts um place so how did you make this possible yeah I just had1 pound savings I was working at North Devon Leisure Center which is over that Hill about 30 m away as a lifu for £75 an hour it's pretty painful times and I lived in a beds and then you'd have to turn the sofa into a bed every night and back again and I couldn't just couldn't survive we got evicted three times from different bedsets cuz we couldn't afford A3 a week rent and then um I had this ambition always from being bullied at school to at this hunger to be able to turn my passion into my profession and teach martial arts as my career but no one had done it before nobody had done it before I had no school qualifications whatsoever I did my best at school but it wasn't for me you it just wasn't something that I was too uh like um into academic side so my mom's one of 14 children they've all literally gone and gone to University been very academic very got degrees and my father's side is all about get a trade become electrician a plumber and but yeah it wasn't for me I don't know why I just knew that I wanted to run martial arts for a living and um just by chance I had a friend who come back from America and he said he said Matt you wouldn't believe what's going on out there and back then there was no none of this internet stuff you know it was all we had Myspace and email this is store we had a red telephone box I remember he paged me right and I had to go and ring him up from a red telephone box he said M there's people in the states who are making millions from martial arts and I said well I don't want to compromise my standards said they don't have to do that they got standards and they're making the money so I saved up enough of my money from the 275s an hours and I got a flight to a convention in San Francisco and this is like a three-day event and it had over a thousand multi-millionaire martial arts business owners there and the organizer of the event Nicholas kinus he was in his 80s and he liked the fact I used my last savings so I saved up I think the ticket was about 300 something like that mhm you're talking like 97 98 now he liked the fact that I was 17 years old used up my last money I introduced myself to him too yeah America's very different they pat you on your back and they want you to succeed when you're over here they they'll stick knives on you they'll troll on you and hate on you and so on it's different over there and he said to me he said Mt I want you to study for the next three days then I'm going to introduce you to the biggest martial arts school owners in the world okay I want you to get up at 4 in the morning take down notes and uh try and take it back to UK he basically wanted to try and make an example out of me like a case study being so young that anyone can do it no qualifications nothing of just my martial arts black bels that's it so I took it back to the UK the systems and we made it very professional we took martial arts out of the Dark Ages and made it very educational so the kids got life skill lessons so everything the school system doesn't teach we teach we filled the gaps for that and it just um absolutely exploded I put everyone on monthly tuition which was never done before yeah I mean literally six months later I had 700 members I was making a million pound a year wow some things didn't work like the high fives and the hugs from the States you know it's quite normal for them and the UK is like well what are you doing that don't work but but I modified it over the years and now we're absolutely almost three decades in we've we got this down why Marshall LS specifically and not something else so I've been bullied at school really bad from 5 years old to be honest with the bullying never stops even when you're successful now it's like online bullying and trolls and so on but I was being bullied at school and uh the child next to me at school said listen this Bully's going to hurt you why don't you learn to defend yourself so I went with him to a martial arts class and I was just I say gifted but I do believe there's a lot of genetical side of being good at some sports you know like I'm never going to be an Arnold squ snagger but I got long legs on 6'4 and kind all yeah yeah all and I could already do the kicks relatively well I could do the side splits already I was flexible and um I just knew this was all I wanted to do my parents were horrified my grandparents were even more horrified so he Matthew you can't make any money kicking your legs in the air and no one's going to take you seriously and but yeah I mean couple of years later my my father and my mother ended up working for me so what's your favorite practice in m l well so for me my my original style was Taekwondo okay and then what we did then is we made Taekwondo the bass style and we took all the best bits from all the other martial art systems into Taekwondo and and put it in there to make it a family make it realistic too that it's proper self-defense and but yeah majority of people who join my schools they bring their parents bring their kids to the classes because they wanted to be more educated more disciplined respectful self-control set goals everything the Academic School System doesn't teach them and it took off so we get they have homework sheets and homework books they have to fill out and they have to they have to be good at home and good at schoolwise they can't go for the next color grade because they're all working towards a black belt and I was one of the first to do this and I was hated for it at the time now everyone's tries to copy what I do but that's how it expanded out it just went it went nuts I mean I just couldn't imagine I was at the original building the other day and I was showing some team members how I had no money and they gave me six months free rent for the building right and I have to decorate myself and it was on it was on New Year's Eve and it's right on the front of a town called ball and everyone was partying a firks are going off and everyone's getting drunk and I was in there decorating looking at window thinking am I doing the right thing here or what grinding yeah I got no money yeah on opening there had people cubing up around the street who uh wanting to sign up and it just it became the biggest martial arts school in the UK at what age where was that I was just turned 17 I was 18 by 18 yeah so at 18 while everybody else were partying drinking doing whatever whatever you were walking hard to make your dream come true yeah I was doing the it's like saying You observe the masses and do the opposite everyone else is getting drunk and I was focusing on my goals and turning my dreams I doubted myself a little bit when I was staring out I still remember it now staring out the window thinking what the heck am I doing and um yeah so glad I did I've had to sacrifice a lot not it's not been normal as it my life but but it was yeah I wouldn't change it that's for sure absolutely and I think and and I see that myself right now because I'm doing this and I haven't I don't have the years of experience like other people are doing and I can see the the loneliness the path that you have to follow in order for you to find that success that you always looking for and and with people that I sit down with and I talk to I always say success for for somebody anything can be different so your own version of success could be money your own version of success could be Freedom uh but I think Financial Freedom is is one of the key elements that everybody should have I'm not saying it's easy to do unless you come from money yeah but at some point you won't understand how this works and you are the most ideal person to talk to because you have gone from literally zero to becoming a multi multi-millionaire I actually Googled you and I and I asked Google what is your net worth and it said to me is 12 million uh is that pounds for your or yeah be pounds I hope it' be more than that by now probably working my butt off the last few years is that the truth yeah I mean once you get to that kind of level get past the 10 million stage is very hard to know what your net worth really is because my brand is worth a lot of money you know right and I've got a lot of property and different things but yeah I I would hope it's more than that I would hope so but I don't know ask Google to pump you out any answer you want but uh yeah it's it's been incredible it's been insane when I look back now cuz I'm still only 44 you know and it's I've achieved so so much and and remember when I've come from when I really had to count the pennies I mean it really did MH and and do you know what now too multiple times yeah I've got a lot of money now but I teach people Mentor them how to start business off businesses without money and I normally I get them there within a year I get them making £10,000 a month profit it's not that difficult they just don't teach you this stuff at school so I've literally made thousands of people you financially free and it's not that difficult you just take your passion what you love you turn into your profession but you need somebody who knows what they're doing mentoring you're not going to learn this stuff at school or college or university and for me I find it very easy to make money I never been a problem for me there's always a way to right what do you think is is the best business model to follow in 2024 depends what you what you're into I mean anything now in today's world 2024 you want to be doing anything you can online if you can I think retail and all that's going to go completely online there'll be the death of the High Street it's almost died now as it is so my my business my my goal for all my clients is to get them and my franchisees get them earning six thest profit per year not gross because a lot of people turn turnover turnover is Vanity profit is sanity I don't know why these mentals gurus keep talking I want to turn over to minut who cares you know it's what you get to keep is important so six figures profit per year and then invest in property or real estate depends on where you're watching this from well it's called that's my formula so an online business is very easy to set as people watching this on YouTube or listening to this you you've got a device which you can work from where you can set up an online business and you can all get 10 people paying your ,000 a month or 20 people paying you £500 a month for your information or what you're good at your passion what you're studying and then you're done and then you take your six figures and invest into property you learn no money down strategies all these different ways to invest in property and you don't need money to get into property either the first 47 properties I I bought we all no money down right so it's just not taught out there and a lot of men I'm very different to the others a lot of mentors want to charge you a fortune for this course and then that course I just do one course and just throw it all out because not my main income this is my hobby for most people going to the gym or doing martial arts as a hobby that's my that's my identity that's what I yeah I do so my passion or hobby is mentoring people to go and start a scale of business or scale of business and Go Global I love doing that that's why I do this with you because it's it's my fun thing I want to give back thank you and and thank you so much for having us you're welome I know this means the war to me right now it might not be the same equal exchange for you um but I I truly appreciate this and I'm I'm willing to do and travel to somebody I'm not arrogant and I said this guy is doing is giving me the opportunity right now the least I can do is just go to him and and you and you got a very professional setup here it's awesome and fantastic yeah thank you so much you mentioned that in terms of property you have so many properties with no money down how can someone leverage this opportunity and and do the same in you got to there's a lot to it so I I could I normally teach this over like a year program so I run something called MF Prestige you're part of mf. Club I think AR yeah so the next level after that I I don't do levels I don't do upsell to this upsell to this but right the next one after that I've got a group of people and it's reasonably priced and they we meet up once a month on zoom and every third month in person and then I take him to events like they all come to dinner with me with Simon cow next month and um so anything I feel that's interesed bring him along and we I get them around the table I don't like the word Mastermind it's more networking and I say to them this is what you got to do this is what you got to do this is what this is how you achieve money no money down or buying undervalue or finding these deals you need to find someone who's been there and done it and mirror what they've done so gaining a mentor is the quickest way you're going to get to do that so with me they know they can if they was up me I get back toin 72 hours but any question whatsoever when we meet up they bring their challenges their questions to me and we we cover that so there's many no money down strategies to get into property there's loads of different ways you can do it and finding the deals below market value I'm all about owning assets as well I think like the rent to rent thing fine and service accommodation but that will come they become heavily regulated some places in the world it's already in you need to earn six figures and own assets so that money works for you and you don't work for money that's the key mhm and I think that is comes from a a very good quote that I came across the day from Charles swing do um life is is 10% of what it gives you and 90% of how you react to it and and that exactly example that you just mentioned is that reminds me that exact thing it's 80% mindset too so the the first books I ever read was Unleash the Power by Tony Robins and then awaken the giant with it by Tony Robbins and he talks about something called modeling where go out there find someone who's done what you've done and it will take a shortcut so people hang out with me I mean I spent nearly three decades learning this this craft this business I don't know anything different than entrepreneurship and investing so rather than trying to figure out for yourself you could take 20 years or you might not ever get there they could spend two or three years working with me and Achieve Mak results that's a concept and it for me it works for you know I love doing I love hanging around like-minded people when we meet up once a month I love it hang around like-minded people who've got the same goals and they're vary some might be property some might be social media gurus and rent to rent or they might be want to get own be famous and learn how to get in the media which and so on and or just personal development how to set goals and Achieve them or introduction to get celebrities to endorse their businesses or get guests on their podcast know how to set this up in the right way and yeah they they're like a family MF prestig and that's what I called it it's my prestigious group of people and they have to apply to work with me I don't just take anyone on I really do turn people away because they have to fit within that group it just won't work absolutely but yeah I love doing this and this is very interesting because having a decent conversation with someone can can open so many doors that you never thought of you were this person of who you could be if you were open this store if you were able to see the opportunity that you have in front of you yeah I did a social experiment recently I took part in a an event I went to a a local bar that the uh exra University were holding and I said let me go there let me see cuz it was for young entrepreneurs for people who are just finishing school let me see what how how many people can I meet what are these people are looking for and and how can I sort of be the person in the room to talk about something that I've done so I can see if if these people that are my ideal audience what are they attracted to and we had so many great conversations some of them they're very very techy and into building the um for Bitcoins and all that the blockchain technology I mean my expertise on that is is very very limited but at least I know something to just have a conversation at least start a conversation and from there we talked about the things that I've done like these things that I'm doing right now with you and and it it completely surprised me the whole energy in the club and the people that were surrounding on different groups they all came together and start listening and I said hauh okay so if I show up and I show them what I've done no bullshitting just completely the truth no fluff this gets people's attention but how do I retain people's attention and I started telling more about uh my personal stories fun funny moments when I first moved to UK with zero pounds in my bank account my first job application was at McDonald's because I said I don't care what it is as long as I start because I believe in myself so much that I know that I can achieve so many things and one thing led to another and everybody were blending in and and keep listening and and wanted to be part of that and I said this is so interesting thing cuz now I understand the average young person who wants to listen to this kind of stuff and wants to watch this kind of stuff so for me it was a eye opener because I wasn't aware what my audience really wants yeah in a way so I exposed myself to this environment and I had to find out and ever since that day I'm more friendly with more people I say hi how's your day yeah say my events you're only two or three handshakes from anyone in the world that's the truth if I wanted to get on or squat snagger on the end of the phone by tonight I would achieve it there's always a way to do anything you got to identify your Niche too right that's that's the key thing and they all down um on your I don't your niches with this podcast but some people will Niche down on entrepreneurship or inves in or relationships or whatever it may be supercars but but nich and down is important because then you know exactly who you're going to appeal to and then only working with that group and becoming the most famous person in that Niche then people will want to come to you come on your podcast buy your services buy your products so niching down is extremely important but you don't want to Niche down so tight that you you will reject certain guests or certain people and so forth but MH yeah that's good little way you put it across there but anyone's accessible I me you hit me up on Instagram you weren't pushy and I think if you just say to people you know exactly if someone you know I'm starting this thing off and you know I know I Haven got much just be you just be you I'm here in the flipping tracksuit right I I don't care what people think of me I'm not going to be something I'm not so and people appreciate that and when I'm on stage I talk about my down times I've been through not just the good times they sit forward and think I can relate to this person so when you dm' me I'm like yeah fair play to the guy you know he's got out of his way and yeah I think that that needs to be more people like that in this world so it's really important I appreciate that that that means the world coming from you you know um you have such an amazing background such an amazing so amazing Stories and one of a big parts of your life was because you were ex bodyguard of Michael Jackson yeah I have so many questions about that sure but how did you even even had this opportunity to come across Michael and become his bodyguard so so when my martial arts school took off the one we talked about earlier on I was doing a million in the year I had a reporter come in and he had a son and a daughter right who trained in the classes and he wanted to do a story on me I thought it was saw the local newspaper and he he interviewed me about bully boy no school qualifications and he worked out in a calculator that making a milon had a Ferrari as well at the time which kind of gave it away you couldn't really hide from it especially in bable and he went away and I thought this for the local Pap he said yeah maybe anyway two days later I didn't hear nothing and then um it was on the front page of every National Paper in the UK bully boy becomes millionaire it was international news and they used a picture of me when I was little young at school my school picture picture of me doing a punch in a martial arts unform on a picture of me sat in my car and on the back of that TV researchers are looking for stories so they're flicking for newspapers or online nowadays and they thought this would be an interesting story so I did all the morning TV shows yeah and some evening TV shows too that came to the attention of a guy called Yuri Geller who's world famous and um all over the world in the UK he more known for bending spoons bending spoons yeah Power of his mind but everywhere El so positive things but like Tony Robbins where he's got the firewor and Yuri G's got the spoon bending thing I love how he made his millions yeah yeah g Yuri's extremely clever you know he he wanted to meet me he wanted to make an anti-b billion video he's got a good heart to give out to schools all across the UK where I would teach them the self defense side of things and the Yuri would teach bit more positive mind you know stay positive and overcome the mind power side of it we didn't make that video but we went on to make make a fitness based video similar type concept martial arts aerobics type thing and then he did the power of the mind and it released an Asia he incredibly successful and we became best friends and unbeknown to me I had no idea I knew we had Mega famous friends I mean the guy's got this his house is like replica of the White House just outside of Rin son and ons very motivating for me as a young guy going to go and hang out with him seeing that houseing want to be where you are Yuri you know I want a house like you've got and I I used to go for long walks With Yuri every day he'd walk for a couple hours a day and famous people would call but not this person and then well not in my maybe he did I don't know presidents and royalty different like would call you together up but then um I was in my house in bable 3:00 in the morning phone rings there landline back then was the main method of communication and it was Yuri yeah you girl saying you got to come to my house now and I said I can't you know what am I supposed to say to my ever half she's going to think I'm having an affair or something if you said if you don't come now you're going to regret this for the rest of your life and he said I love you and he put the phone down on me and that was it so I thought what the heck he's never steered me wrong he Tau me about investing in property so he's like Matt stop buying Ferraris stop doing this keep buying houses they're not going to build any more land very very clever guy so I drove to his house about two and a half 3our Drive the gates open and I drive down to his mansion and then nothing there that was unusual there had three black SUV black out Vans outside and I walk in the living room and then um this frail guy stood up from the sofa walked across to me and he bowed said hi Master Fess my name is Michael Jackson pleased to meet you and I'm thinking wow man this is a prank show I was looking for the secret cameras or something cuz we a lot of prank shows back there and we got really well me and Mike became good friends and it turned out he's Joseph Jackson his dad wanted all the Jackson Five to be black bouts and to learn how to defend himself because they're so famous so young and he got to first degree black Bel and he wanted someone who he could trust to take him to second degree along with his best friend Mark leester who played Oliver Twist div origional Oliver Twist so they're the same age they grew up together and so on so we we were talking all day all night about Bruce Lee that was the other thing too he wanted me I had connections to to Bruce Lee's family so he wanted me to introduce him to Bruce Lee's ex-wife and Bruce Lee's daughter shanon Lee sadly Bruce's son Brandon passed away with an accident on the film set and he what Michael likes to do is he bit like what Tony Robins talks about he likes to find the best in the world at something and find out what made Bruce Lee so relevant all these years on why people still why is he still the most famous martial artist action star ever so he wanted to quiz his ex-wife and his daughter about that so he wanted me to try and make that meeting happen we got on really well and and for a year or so we were just friends and then his long-term bodyguards had left and it's very hard because he had when he would recruit them they would cost him I think about $150 $200,000 a month but then he couldn't answer the phone in front I think case they sell a story so when I used to go out with Michael because I was the martial arts guy I had big muscles back then I've let them go I don't need big muscles anymore I used to be protective of my friends so when they were and the paparazzi would come in and the fans and the public I used to hold on to him and my picture would' be Associated him all the time and in the end because I was the the martial arts man 6'4 they it just became a thing like uh Mike said you're my bodyguard in the end I said to him I said look Mike if you want if you want me to protect you wherever in the world it's fine I was already a millionaire before I met him people think I made my money from him he never paid me a penny he offered me money but never take it cuz that's why the relationship worked it was non-transactional we were friends and um yeah for for the first five years I did a lot with him personally then I started having kids and stuff and he's very caring he doesn't want me to take a bullet when I've got I got children being born and stuff like that but I had my family my brother-in-law at the time used to help out and I I had access to all these martial arts instructors so he was um I took over his Security operation and after like mid 2005 I took more of a backseat I became more of his friend again so I'd visit him when he was in London with Mark leester talked to him on the phone and go and visit him whenever I could and he would come and Vis visit me and that's how it worked out so he became best friend and so forth but it was a non-transactional relationship and um yeah he knew my kids and was great us to take them out shopping and stuff and a wonderful man he taught me how to franchise he taught me how to take my five martial arts schools I had in North Devon and um get my mind thinking to expand via franchising and I told him no one's ever done that before in martial arts he said that's exactly why you got to do it and we yeah we opened up 400 sites on the back of his advice he was a shrewed man that guy was a ruthless businessman he wrote down on napkin exactly what I had to do build a brand understand media and make make use of that become a big name put things into manual script everything so you go to any of the mates martial arts schools they all are the same make the ccul them make it family based and when I I used to throw Michael objections he used to say yeah but it can be done because look what I've done Matt I've come from a poor family in Gary Indiana nine children a two-bedroom house my dad used to work in a steel mill we used to have handouts of food for f for to make us eat because they had no money and he's got the biggest saling album in the world filler filling out stadiums of 80,000 people so he wouldn't have any of my objections he was like you're talking nonsense you can do this and yeah and then from that point onwards whenever I used to ring him or you used to ring me be like how many schools you up M how are you doing and I throw the question back at him and said how are you doing said I I've just signed a in a a tour of career for $80 million and I come off the phone thinking oh man Mike's telling my phone Mike's kicking my butt I need to up my game he kept me accountable right awesome guy I think that is so important yeah to someone accountable and I I haven't come across to this so much especially based on your experiences but I think this pushed your limit to to be somewhere that you couldn't you could never imagine yourself to be at do you think that was the the same thing looking back now at a time I didn't know any different because 18-year- old my best friend's Yuri Geller his best friend's Michael Jackson Michael Jackson's best man at his wedding godf father fathers to my children didn't know any different did I I didn't have a normal my normal 18 19 year olds are going out nightclubbing and getting drunk I was mixing with superstars and billionaires Muhammad Al was a good friend of mine too Michael introduced me to him who owned Howards and Ritz hotel in Paris so back then I took it for granted but he right I was part of the elite when we got together and had dinner on Saturday nights at Muhammad Al's house it' be me Michael Jackson and David Blaine and darl Hannah Yuri Geller I mean incredible people billionaires multi-millionaires and I'm little on me out there right and they would say to me Muhammad he would say to me Muhammad of would say you know why you all talking about ideas for us to make the next billion everyone else is out there getting drunk you're in the right place so it's so important to hang around the right people your netw worth will become your network will be in your netw worth the people you hang around with will be who you become so Looking Back Now absolutely if it wouldn't for that incredible Mastermind they call it nowadays or network I was part of I wouldn't have pushed myself so hard do you think it was hard for you to keep up your the promise that you made to Michael open up so many other yeah he was tough on me man that guy was tough on me I used I used to dodge Michael Jackson's phone calls yeah I know people laugh at it all the time I remember one time uh I'm not one of these 5 a.m. people right so on Saturdays I I sleep in and who called me first Britney Spears called me first because we're all part of the same network back then and she called me up and I don't my rehearsal wife I call her my ex-wife rehearsal wife the mother of my three eldest children she she would say that you know Britney's on her phone I tell her I'll give her a call back I need to sleep and then you next one would be you G's on the phone youing back then be Michael Jackson's on the phone ah dear me no not again so tell him I ring him back and I I think to this is not normal at all is it on a Saturday morning I got people waking me up like this but no he was hard on me I mean Michael was tough on me he's like just like his dad Joseph was on on him maybe he was tough on me man that guy was and whenever I go and see him in London when he when he' come in visit and call come and see me I'm at the lanb hotel to Dorchester I knew the first thing you say to me how's your business going how many schores opened up that relationship was it just with you or was it with everybody that Michael Associated himself his network was very high level right Michael Jackson's network was the biggest stars and biggest investers in the world like Sultan of brunai was his friend and yeah so I think just because of the people you mix with I don't think it he does know any different he've had he's been famous since he was five he had his dad pushing and then Motown records pushing him that's just what's in his blood that's what that's how Michael was wired up and uh yeah I mean it was incredible insight and also was the truth of the matter is if your friends with someone like Michael Jackson and opens up doors you can pretty much you get a hold of anyone you want to get a hold of and and if you seem to be loyal to that person like I wish for all my life now I'd never s him out I'd never do a book on him never I've been offered crazy money but um the truth is there's no dirt on Michael he was this incredible genius who manipulated media who and he taught me how to build out my business between him and Yuri Geller Yuri the property side of mindset Michael Jackson with his building a mega brand there's no way I I could have I could have lost so yeah owe a lot to him absolutely will be forward you mentioned media and especially with such a high profile yourself you are a mega star and you've always been not always but you are on the front page of every magazine and you used to be and every single media um pretty much come around and and try to get a story out of you and I recently saw that real time especially what happened with um the outside door that was the electric gates the electric gates that was just an Instagram post just an Instagram post yeah but I saw every single newspaper took that and used that put it to put it a headline and then they made a story it was the top three story in the world that day it was embarrassing I was on stage talking to entrepreneurs in London at the time and I got whispered in my ear you do realize your wife's car getting stuck in your electric gates of the top three story in the world so wow you know but now do you know what it is is I was having a mega start in my own sector I'm obviously extremely well known the martial arts world I've done a lot of TV shows and um I did Rich house po house which is a massive hit when I did that show and I do lots of shows internationally depends on what country you're in but um yeah little things like that so that was just an Instagram post I was warning people of the storm be careful looks what happened our electric gates have failed and crushed my wife's car she's safe that's all what matters there's trees falling down everywhere be careful boom hit it out 10 minutes later it was all over the world yeah but a lot of that too on my Instagram post I don't mention Michael Jackson because I I've learned to live of it now right but before Michael died it was Matt Fess the business Guru the the martial arts Tycoon when Michael died it's always Michael Jackson's bodyguard and it will never go so on my Instagram post you won't see any mention of Michael Jackson at all but then when the media take it they have to because of clickbait and Google searches because Michael's the most famous man on Earth even in death he still is they make it they try and turn the story about Michael and use a picture of me and Michael and yeah that's why it blows up you know so so but yeah you know you got to learn to live with it it's I'm never going to lose that am I it's is one of those things but it's a silly story that was and um should never have been worldwide news when we got all the crazy stuff that's going on in this world right now but yeah that's happened to me numerous times in my life where I woken up also you get the untrue stories too and you just got to take that on the chin it's got put up with it do you think what happens with media bothers you no not at all level I used to right yeah I used to hate people like before social media it was all like gossiping and graffiti on walls and what people would think of you and I used to I used to take that on board and used to upset me I used to have Sleepless lights about it and then some media stories i' I sleep night sleepless nights I don't care anymore I mean how did you let go well you learn in the end that the people who bought that Lamborghini you can see out there and and this Mansion we're in and all my houses are because they made my stories go viral they hate on me when I go on TV shows the jealousy you know the the the people who don't the the people don't like Michael Jackson they want to hate on you they don't like me they not even met me I mean I've got very tight Inner Circle I meet very few people only at events and they're like oh you're so friendly and so approachable they don't understand it they this preconceived idea that you're arrogant and why are you rich we're not well I'm trying to inspire the world get off your backside stop watching the news yes there is a crisis in the world about cost of living and interest rates highest have ever been but do something about it you know we're not all struggling you don't have to be struggling I got people booming out there at the moment in business because they don't listen to the media they're focusing what I tell them and that that's what's important to me but the media stuff I understand how the game works right the more haters you get the more trolling you get The Story Goes even more Wilder causes tra trffic to look you up on Google they go to your website your Facebook pages I made hundreds of thousands it' be hard to quantify the figure off that Instagram post the other day from worldwide media coverage so I understand trollers and haters are part of the game they really are your lovers right and they make they put you where they are so every time they Troll and hate on my comments and push the story up then I yeah I thank them by buying another Ferrari or something but that's just just got to understand it most people in business they get criticism oh I don't like that I don't like being talked about or they get a NE negative review or I couldn't care less I mean it's a negativity what pushes you out there goes back to observe the masses do the opposite they can hate on me all they want but it will just push me up even more I attract more eyeballs the key to success is get where wherever attention goes money flows you got to have as much eyeballs on you as you possibly can and I learned that from Michael and Yuri so it don't bother me I know it's the part of the game all it bothers me is a roof over my my my family's head my six kids and my wife and I can feed them if I lost everything tomorrow I couldn't care less lamborghin Ferraris and mansions I really don't care and it's hard to teach people that because it was a big thing for me in my early 20s get rich get rich get rich but when I started it was just about trying to prove the bully's wrong and to teach taond a living just to earn a earn an income but now I know what really matters you know and that comes from Pain points which you can't teach I lost my mom I was very close to her she was she was a a siss and I she was like my rock and she would um she knew I wasn't doing well at school but she' say you can do anything you you can Matthew just got to put your mind to it there's no such word as can that's I remember her saying she died in 2012 of breast cancer she was 56 I was 32 and when you low in your mom's coffin in a grave and you got millions of pounds net worth and you've hired the best bre breast cancer professor in the world and £50,000 experim experimental drugs are trying and save her you still couldn't save her you and I'm looking at my three kids watching their nanny go in the grave you really know what matters you know when you walk away that day so yeah my my life viewpoints completely changed since that day yeah absolutely so I couldn't care less about people want to hate on me and stuff they don't know me they don't know me the funny thing is as well Dennis right I go I go to these events you're going to event with me next month you'll see what happens right and um they all want to meet you after this after I've done my talk they find my life like quite fascinating now if I go to the martial arts sector they're the ones who hate on me the most because they just don't understand it because I took martial arts right out of the Dark Ages it's a bit better now because people are adopting what I've done but it was considered bad to make money out of martial arts when I started it was not done before so I go to a martial arts convention and from the second I walk in get absolutely mobbed by people who want selfies and their martial arts about signed and then I have to get um the guy who organized this guy called Bob syes he organized a Que in the end and I had someone with me just in case we get we might get an idiot who's trying to be silly and this guy used to run the biggest martial arts magazine in the world who puts this this event on he come up to me say Matt that person who trolls on you and hates on you all the time on on these forums they que and up there for a selfie wow yeah it's interesting is it they're really your lovers not yeah yeah was they meet you I get it you know I get it you got to understand right I was 20 years old I don't know if you've been to ball before it's got 30,000 people there my so I'm 20 years old I've got big pecs ripped ABS back then hair long driving a Ferrari 355 spider with the roof down in the winter and my best friends are Michael Jackson Yuri Geller and Britney Spears all these Mega Stars Mohammad offi of course people are going to hate on me but now I look back I understand why the town didn't understand me and I get it back then I was deeply hurt by it yeah it was it was strange why would why everyone talking about me all the time and I never even met this person but literally in my circle you talked about the lonely bit and there is some truth to that so my circle of friends right you mentioned Rob Mo earlier on who's I speak to daily very close friend of mine I trust Rob with anything so you've got probably five or six people who are speak to on a daily basis and that's it right but the higher up you go in the in the chain of success or whatever you want to call it you people tend to want to have part of you you know they it becomes difficult if I if I meet someone they want to talk about my life and I want to talk about their life you know they find my life so fascinating and yeah so yeah you do become quite protective it's strange how it works yeah how do you find someone else's life interesting for you to be part of his life well I I I get fascinated by every day stuff like some of the works at McDonald's I want to know what that's like and how do you pay your flipping bills you know how do you how do you survive like if someone's working in a factory I want to know what that's how does that work how do you communicate with your wife your family and because I got the ultimate you've said about what money really means the ultimate thing it's not the Lamborghinis of Ferraris and mansions it's freedom I can do what I want when I want whenever I want I can work hard in my business because I love it and I do I work this I've been working flat out days recently not cuz I have to CU I love making people rich and changing kids' lives and stop them being bullied and underconfidence and all these labels that are handed out from autism to ADH whether they're real or not they get this pushed out by Academic School whereas we'll take everyone on and I like seeing their lives change the parents crying when the kids get their black belts and adults get their black bels and we take people on disabilities as well that's what motivates me and I also think the world's going to be a very tough Place we've had the I won't say it because you're going to be on YouTube where we had to stay indors for a period of time and we couldn't go out um due to government orders I'm not conspiracy theories but there will be there's billions made out of that I do believe there will be more of those situations where we have to stay at home you're not allowed out not allowed to go to work etc appears I think there'll be a global warm warm in one there'll be other types of diseases and so on and um yeah and and what do you think about cbcs that are coming in place to 2030 because that scares me the heck out of me yeah cuz um it's it's it's coming from China because it's already in place it's not a a conspiracy in the US um you they see that real time they scan their hand and they pay their groceries yeah it's just their hand and and coming back to China they have this ecosystem where the whole government they can identify you based on a camera that are located everywhere and you adust a serial number on the screen and with especially with artificial intelligence nowadays that everything that sort of project they can support with artificial intelligence they add more to it and speaking about artificial intelligence El Elon Musk which he owns one of his companies uh neurolink yeah they just started a um the first real project human trials that they they put a machine on someone's brain to function now they say some of the abilities um I think is the right word to that you can use based on the machine is probably if you have lost an arm or or if you've been to war maybe part of your part of your your brain doesn't work that machine helps you complete the rest of it but it's almost like we are becoming machines We are Becoming CS do you know what happened yesterday I was in my my team were in the office and they wanted me to they played me an interview and I said to them I don't remember doing this this um it's to it's it me to camera basically I don't remember recording that so you won't do it's done by Ai and it's my picture talking with my voice it was tiny bit off but it's a de deep fake unbelievable I was like Wow flip I got to be careful man it's like yeah yeah and it's just me talking and it wasn't even me I think about it and also going back to Michael Jackson now I know there's lots of fake songs out there with his voice which has been used with AI right I don't know how the Michael Jackson State are going to keep that under control it's not really Michael's song